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Paul Imgrund's avatar

Mostly agree with these shortcomings. I dunno, it's been ten years since I read the Iliad, and almost as long since watching the movie, but I seem to remember Hector definitely being aware he was going to his death. Maybe it doesn't make as much sense for him to perceive Achilles as invincible in the movie, since it shies away from the River Styx dunking, but I think the movie accurately portrays Hector of the poem in his dutifully going to his doom. His reluctance checks out, given that he runs around the city a bunch before turning to face Achilles in combat.

My other problems are:

1) not enough Odysseus

2) the movie clearly wants the audience to prefer the Trojans over the Greeks

3) no gods

4) Paris still alive at the end (I know you already mentioned this, but it bears repeating)

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

I must say that though you predicted I'd tear you a new one, while I love this movie... I gotta admit that I really do agree with your points on it. You're quite right about the diminishment of Menelaus, while I do think he should be portrayed as a villain, there's such a thing as nuance and depth, and this movie missed the boat on that one.

Hektor should be portrayed as more than just a mope, and then there's the major fight that while I love does have some issues.

I gotta include this one on Saturday in S&S. You make a lot of great points Josh, and damn but I really can't wait to get you on the show, if only to get the regular podcast out of the way so we could in a few months just do a Greek/Roman movie podcast geeking out about ancient Greece/Rome!

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